Comments on: Monster Bighole Brown http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/ Montana Fly Fishing blog with river flows, guide information, reports, weather, fly shops, fly tying, photography and news from the outdoors. Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:42:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: mark faulkner http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-4276 mark faulkner Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:12:05 +0000 http://willfishforwork.com/?p=839#comment-4276 I release all my trout as a personal choice. On the bighole brown not being released question... Not defending or condemning the bighole angler, but, a brown that large was already several years old. How much longer it may have lived if it had been released that day is questionable. I believe our energy would be much better spent educating people on how to properly handle and release trout so that they have a much better chance of living after beling released. I've seen poorly handled trout that, although, were likely released with good intentions, probably died shortly thereafter, due to improper handling. Digital photos are much better for me. And for those who must have something physically hanging above the fireplace on a plaque, there are excellent fish replica resources available. Tight Lines! < m.f. I release all my trout as a personal choice.

On the bighole brown not being released question…

Not defending or condemning the bighole angler, but, a brown that large was already several years old. How much longer it may have lived if it had been released that day is questionable.

I believe our energy would be much better spent educating people on how to properly handle and release trout so that they have a much better chance of living after beling released. I’ve seen poorly handled trout that, although, were likely released with good intentions, probably died shortly thereafter, due to improper handling.

Digital photos are much better for me.

And for those who must have something physically hanging above the fireplace on a plaque, there are excellent fish replica resources available.

Tight Lines! <

m.f.

]]> By: Joe Smith http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3094 Joe Smith Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:22:15 +0000 http://willfishforwork.com/?p=839#comment-3094 I don't blame the guy one bit for keeping this fish. There are thousands of trout in the Big Hole. I understand this guy has been fishing since age 14....maybe he released this fish once 10 years ago when it was more edible? BTW I fish the stone with nightcrawlers. I release the ones I catch on the lip and sometimes will cut the line with the hook left inside for release. Sometimes, when deeply hooked, I take them home for MOM to eat. I obey the law and buy a MT fishing license and I obey the limits like this guy did. If everybodt wants to get so ethical then don't fish at all and rent "A River Runs through It" and watch Brad Pit catch fish. BTW open the Big Hole, Yellowstone and Big Hole Rivers totally to us bait fisherman. We should have some rights as well as east coast deep pockets and those few outfitters who cater to them! I don’t blame the guy one bit for keeping this fish. There are thousands of trout in the Big Hole. I understand this guy has been fishing since age 14….maybe he released this fish once 10 years ago when it was more edible?

BTW I fish the stone with nightcrawlers. I release the ones I catch on the lip and sometimes will cut the line with the hook left inside for release. Sometimes, when deeply hooked, I take them home for MOM to eat. I obey the law and buy a MT fishing license and I obey the limits like this guy did. If everybodt wants to get so ethical then don’t fish at all and rent “A River Runs through It” and watch Brad Pit catch fish. BTW open the Big Hole, Yellowstone and Big Hole Rivers totally to us bait fisherman. We should have some rights as well as east coast deep pockets and those few outfitters who cater to them!

]]> By: record big hole brown « bigrflyshop.com/blog http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3077 record big hole brown « bigrflyshop.com/blog Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:14:53 +0000 http://willfishforwork.com/?p=839#comment-3077 [...] The picture at willworkforfish blog: http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/ [...] [...] The picture at willworkforfish blog: http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/ [...]

]]> By: chris ruebusch http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-3050 chris ruebusch Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:04:24 +0000 http://willfishforwork.com/?p=839#comment-3050 there is no doubt that this is a big fish and a big loss to the bighole, But if you fish there very often you will realize there are more big browns, you just have to know how to catch them. Now to think this one fish could damage the grayling population is a joke not to mention the fact that all trout will migrate towards headwater and cold springs during low warm water if stressed. Brown trout can tolerate warm temps better than some other fishes. The real fact lies in the truth about electroshocking and the people who use these tools, not to mention the harsh ranching practices on the upper bighole. If you dewater, over graze, and alow cattle to trample streambeds, and then turn around and shock the hell out of the river and its prime spawning areas, throw in some liberal laws that make no sense and you will see that there is a bigger picture to this watershed and the challenges it faces everyday. The reality is the balance is lost in the headwaters and it has to do with brown trout, brook trout, dewatering and electroshocking , and there is no way that fish and game can stop any of this, shy of killing the stream and all its tributaries, one does not have to be a biologist to realize, the planting of these non native species was and is a mistake. You cant take back the past, when the same mentality is still present here today. Our state sits in a stagnate pool of ideas, and practices when it comes to managing our streams, except when it comes to creating new prices and fees for our recreation that we cherish so much. I cant wait to see where my daughter will be fishing in 15 years. It scares me to think of this, so I choose not to. there is no doubt that this is a big fish and a big loss to the bighole, But if you fish there very often you will realize there are more big browns, you just have to know how to catch them. Now to think this one fish could damage the grayling population is a joke not to mention the fact that all trout will migrate towards headwater and cold springs during low warm water if stressed. Brown trout can tolerate warm temps better than some other fishes. The real fact lies in the truth about electroshocking and the people who use these tools, not to mention the harsh ranching practices on the upper bighole. If you dewater, over graze, and alow cattle to trample streambeds, and then turn around and shock the hell out of the river and its prime spawning areas, throw in some liberal laws that make no sense and you will see that there is a bigger picture to this watershed and the challenges it faces everyday. The reality is the balance is lost in the headwaters and it has to do with brown trout, brook trout, dewatering and electroshocking , and there is no way that fish and game can stop any of this, shy of killing the stream and all its tributaries, one does not have to be a biologist to realize, the planting of these non native species was and is a mistake. You cant take back the past, when the same mentality is still present here today. Our state sits in a stagnate pool of ideas, and practices when it comes to managing our streams, except when it comes to creating new prices and fees for our recreation that we cherish so much. I cant wait to see where my daughter will be fishing in 15 years. It scares me to think of this, so I choose not to.

]]> By: Monster Bighole Brown part 2 | Willfishforwork.com http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-2874 Monster Bighole Brown part 2 | Willfishforwork.com Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:07:59 +0000 http://willfishforwork.com/?p=839#comment-2874 [...] Manager, in response to an email that I sent to Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks concerning the Monster Brown trout that was caught up there a couple weeks [...] [...] Manager, in response to an email that I sent to Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks concerning the Monster Brown trout that was caught up there a couple weeks [...]

]]> By: Tim Miller http://willfishforwork.com/2009/06/21/bighole-brown/comment-page-1/#comment-2841 Tim Miller Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:21:04 +0000 http://willfishforwork.com/?p=839#comment-2841 Well put. I grew up and now live on some of the finest trout water in the state of Colorado. I have seen first hand the impact catch and release fishing can have on a fishery. It is a positive for me, my kids, and many generations of anglers to come. I agree with your assertion that time spent condemning the actions of other anglers should be better spent education people about conservation. Thanks, TM Well put. I grew up and now live on some of the finest trout water in the state of Colorado. I have seen first hand the impact catch and release fishing can have on a fishery. It is a positive for me, my kids, and many generations of anglers to come.
I agree with your assertion that time spent condemning the actions of other anglers should be better spent education people about conservation.
Thanks,
TM

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